Thursday, March 18, 2010

F451 Fishbowl #3

As you blog about pages 40-63 in Fahrenheit 451, slow down a little...pull in quotations that you think are significant or confusing. Use your annotations to guide you.

As always, maintain your professionalism and enjoy yourselves.

I look forward to reading this over spring break. And, by the way, I wish all of you a fantastic, safe spring break!

32 comments:

  1. Does Montag's wife want him to get in trouble with Beatty?

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  2. Class
    Why is Montag so worried about Clarisse? What does this represent?

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  3. I don't think that she wants him to get in trouble. I think that she is pretty innocent and because she is in her own world of technology all the time. I think that she just wants things out in the open because she is scared of getting in trouble herself.

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  4. Class- What will come of Montag and his book?

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  5. Moe
    I don't think that Montag's wife wants Montag to get in trouble with Beatty. I think that she is just shy and doesn't feel comfortable talking with people that aren't related to her. I think she feels more connected with people in her living room than people on the street.

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  6. Kristin,
    Well it looked to me like Montag and Clarisse had a deep connection. He was worried because afer Clarisse died there is no one left in the world to keep him sane.

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  7. I agree with Emily K when she says that Montags wife is innocent. I also do not think that She wants to get him in trouble.

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  8. I also agree with Kaity I. I think Montag has been thinking about what Clarisse told him and he wants to to talk to her again.

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  9. Sean,
    I think Montag will be curious and read it, and then like in Macbeth the guilt will eat away at him.

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  10. What do you think brought Montage to realize he was, "a silly empty man near a silly empty woman," (page 44)?

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  11. Kristin-
    I think Montag is worried about Clarisse because they seem to have built a relationship that he enjoys being in. It might become more of relationship later on in the story when a problem is irrupted. But they definitely have something together.

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  12. Kaity- Do you think Montag thinks that people should read books?

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  13. Kristin:
    I believe that Montag really cares about Clarisse and is starting to understand the way she thinks and knows if the government found out they would not be happy. So I believe he is scared for her, and acknowledges the dangers for her have significantly risen.

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  14. Sean M- I think Montag will end up reading it and realize tha they are not so bad and they do ahve stories to tell. I think he will end up fighting for the right to read books.

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  15. Class:

    Predict in the future why you think Montag has the book.

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  16. Emily K-
    I think that Clarisse brought Montag to realize that he was a "silly empty man near a silly empty woman". Clarisse showed him another way to think and that there were different people out there that aren't all the same. He realized that he fell into that category of not having anything unique about his life and describes it as "empty".

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  17. Sean
    I think that Montag will keep the book because he started to make the connection that "a man was behind each one of those books (page 51). Think that he is going to keep the book in a safe place and read it often. It seems to me that by reading something new, his mind has questioned his life. By reading the book, it is a way for him to remember Clarisse.

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  18. I think Montag has the book because Clarisse told him about the past. He is very curious about it and wants to find out more about books and what is inside of them.

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  19. Sean/Kaity:
    I believe eventually all the firemen have read a book in their lifetime. It's their job everyday and they are told not to read it, eventually someone will get curious and crack it open even to just read a single phrase, such as the situation with Montag. I feel like he is going to find that is is not the only curious one and team up with other people in fight for the right to read it. They let them have it for 48 hours, in which time they have the ability to read the book.

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  20. Devon i liked your response to my question i agree with you that is was Clarisse that pushed him to realize this. What do you think Montage's definition of "empty" would be.

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  21. EmilyK:
    The use of the word "empty" describing people could be used as a way to portray the amount of knowledge. I think Montag feels this way because he has found out the past and the real truth and he feels people may as well be empty because of the way they have been lied to and all accepted it, drastically changing the way they live their every day life.

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  22. Jake L-
    I think he read books before the government told him not to do so. But then once he met Clarisse, he remembered how that felt of knowing many things just from reading. But I do agree with you

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  23. Austin on the inner circle just brought up a great point about what the past looked like in the book. The book says that as schools get more athletic and arts oriented that the ones that still read books as a hobby were beat up.

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    Do you think that if people wouldn't have started getting into athletics and arts that the society in described in the book would be different? Or was it an inevitable future?

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  24. SEAN,
    I think that Montag would like to know if the world would be different if books were allowed. However, his job contradicts this.

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  25. Do you think Montag is going to get caught up in the world of books and lose control of this want for more knowledge?

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  26. Do you think this society could be considered selfish? How does that compare to our society?

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  27. Emily
    You bring up a really good question. I think that Montag defines "empty" as not having what you desire. I think that he feels empty because he doesn't have a good relationship with his wife. I also think that because he has started to question his job, the government, and the laws he begins to understand what he is missing in his life.

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  28. I like how the author makes Beatty seem like an intelligent elder but yet also makes Beatty seem so confused on his own life and occupation. I say this because in the scene where Beatty is at Montags home and explaining the history of their occupation. He seems to just ramble on about random things. This revealed to me that perhaps Beatty doesn't really know why he's destroying books. Perhaps he was forced into the job because his father didn't like him reading books.

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  29. Emily K-
    I think that Montag's definition of empty is not having any originality.

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  30. In response to Devon's question, i think that if people were less interested in arts and sports the society in the future would still lead to how it is today in the book. I think that especially arts deals with spreading knowledge and people reading. The arts is a way of expression and in the society that the people live in today, they have no self expression. I think that the government banning books is what caused society to turn out like this. i think it had nothing to do with people's interests.

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  31. Jake
    I disagree that Mildred doesn't want to get Montag in trouble. I believe there is a part of her that wants to get him in trouble since he isn't as reliant on technology like she is. I feel like she wants him to turn to technology but he won't ever have the desire to.

    Meg- I think it is a possibility that Montag could get caught up in all of the new books and knowledge he has his hands on, except I don't think it will happen. I think he knows better that if he got to wrapped up in his books that there would be huge consequences waiting for him.

    EmilyK- In response to your earlier quote about Montag and Mildred both being "empty"-I think Montag is empty because he doesn't know what to believe in. He is experiencing a self vs. self conflict where he's not quite sure if he follows society or he follows himself. He finds himself empty. Mildred seems empty because she is not a real person. To me she is just a body that has machines/ "technology" that feeds her. She is not true because technology drowns and drains the person that she has the potential to be, therefor she is empty.

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  32. Moe- I think Mildred does want to get Montag to get in trouble because Montag is slowly ruining the life she hought she had with his seemingly hippy ideas. Right now though I think Mildred only wants to get Montag in trouble unconciously, but it eventually will come to the surface and she will take a more serious action to get him in trouble.

    Kristin- I think Montag is so worried about Clarisse because she is the only person who treated Montag as another thoughtful human being and not just another media zombie who everyone else seemed to be. This represents that Montag is smart enough to realize the difference between a real human and a "fake" human.

    Devon- I think this book kind of shows an inevitable future because humans are so obsessed with sports a future like that isn't to farfetched.

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